“There are two gentleman I really respect, Jay Kinder, Michael Reese, and what I respect about them is what they are trying to do, how they are trying to do it, why they are trying to do it, and what doing it has accomplished for people through the process of continues sustained progressive access to them their methods, their mindsets, and their continuous growth. Because they keep growing, and they have a desire to hold everybody they collaborate with and everybody at their organization, they refuse to allow you to even grow and then get static. You cannot if you stay associated with them remain on a plateau. That is pretty powerful to know that it is almost impossible.”